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			Best Search Engines 
			
			Finding our club on the web: 
			
			Can people find us on the web? Google was the worst in 2005 - 2006! 
			by Emilio Trampuz (June 2005) 
			
			Updated in May 2006 
			  
			If you 
			can’t remember the exact address of our web site, you can always use 
			a search engine (like Google), type in the words: “Mountain High 
			snowsport club”, and you will find us on any search engine.  
			  
			But, what about people who don’t know our club’s name? What if 
			someone simply wants to search for any ski club in the Portland 
			area? They would probably type in the following search words: “Portland 
			ski club”. Would they find our club?  
			  
			It depends on which search engine they use, and the results are 
			surprising. Google is among the worst. Each search usually results 
			in hundreds of “finds”. It’s no good if we are buried under hundreds 
			of other search results. Ideally, we should be found in the top 10 
			results.  Here’s how our club was ranked by the 
			various search engines (from best to worst):  Rankings updated as of 
			May 2006. 
			  
			
			  
			AOL 
			did not find us among the top results for quite a while. Now they do 
			find us, but in position 21, on the second page of their results.  
			Only Google is as bad as that! 
			  
			MSN 
			don’t find us at all in 2005, when our web site was still relatively 
			new. But, they soon improved greatly, and MSN is now displaying our 
			web site prominently, among the top 10 results, just like ever other 
			search engine (except Google). 
			  
			
			Google used to put us way down, in position 109, in June 2005. After that, for several 
			months, Google completely dropped us from its listings, thanks 
			to their brand new "Page Ranking" system! Then, in May 2006, after 
			much tweaking on our part to adapt to Google’s quirky requirements, 
			Google finally found us again, and listed us in position 19 (at the 
			bottom of page 2).  Only a week later, Google moved our site a bit 
			lower in rankings, to position 21 (on the 3rd page).  
			Since everyone else finds us on the first page now, AOL and Google 
			are the worst.  AOL's results are the same as Google's because 
			they use Google's search engine. 
			  
			NOTE: 
			Just a few days after we published all of the above in our June 
			newsletter, almost as if they had read our article, Google surprised 
			us by suddenly listing our club in 8th place. Much better than at 
			any time during the past year.  But, still not quite as good as 
			other search engines, most of which put as in 3 or 4th place. 
			Besides, why did we have to wait over a year to be listed properly? 
			  
			In case you think that 
			Google has somehow singled out our club, here are a couple of other 
			examples: 
			  
			1. Search for "Denver 
			Ski Club" 
			    a) 
			Schussbaumer Club, 
			www.schussbaumer.com  
			     
			- Yahoo finds the club in 1st place.  
			     
			- Google hides it in 14th place (on page 2). It also shows an 
			indirect link to the Schussbumer club in 9th place, through 
			CitySearch. Why does Google give precedence to an indirect link over 
			the club's own web site itself? That's just not right. If I am 
			looking for a ski club, I don't need information about the City as a 
			whole.  
			  
			    b) 
			Denver Sports and Social,
			
			www.denversands.com/skiing.html  
			     
			- Yahoo finds this club in 2nd place (of the same search as above).
			 
			     
			- Google does NOT find it among the top 100 results! It's just not 
			there! Google is useless here. 
			  
			So, what does 
			Google put among the top 10 results of a search for "Denver ski 
			club"? It puts the following in 8th place (even though this is not 
			even a club at all): Denver Hotels : Travel : Tourism Guide : 
			Denver Ski Resorts,
			
			www.denver.com/hotels/ski.html.  Google is selling us 
			hotels and travel resorts, when all we want is a local ski club!  
			  
			2. Search for 
			"Portland Brits".  
			    It's 
			harder for new web sites on Google. So, it's harder for us to 
			find NEW content on Google. 
			    Our 
			club member, Deirdre Lawrence, has set up a new web site for British 
			expatriates living in Portland, Oregon. You can see that site, if 
			you wish, at: 
			www.PortlandBrits.org. It's a simple, well laid out site. About 
			2 or 3 weeks after the web site was set up, you can now easily find 
			it using a Yahoo search: 
			http://search.yahoo.com/ or a search on AllTheWeb:
			www.alltheweb.com. In fact, 
			you'll find it among the top 10 results by using the search words: 
			"Portland Brits".  
			  
			But, you can't find
			www.PortlandBrits.org on 
			Google (using "Portland Brits" as your search words). I did not find 
			it among the top 120 results. Note that a similar sounding web site 
			named: brit.meetup.com/207/?gj=sj5 doesn't count. That's a 
			different, older web site.  Generally, it seems that Google can 
			lag behind other search engines up to 6 months before they start 
			listing NEW web sites. And even then, the new web sites will have 
			such a low page ranking initially that they will be almost 
			invisible, buried under tons of other results. 
			  
			  
			Google 
			is, unfortunately, the most popular search engine, probably because 
			many people are not aware that its results have been sub-par during 
			the last year, and especially bad since early Spring of 2006.  
			  
			Is 
			Google incompetent or is it doing this on purpose? 
			  
			Google 
			tightened its rules to stop those who were abusing internet 
			searches, but in doing so, it went overboard and is now hurting 
			innocent people like us.  
			  
			Another 
			explanation is that Google is now a public company, looking 
			primarily for quick profit, and thus gives unfair advantage to those 
			web sites who pay them for a better listing.   
			  
			
			Fortunately, people can also find us indirectly, by looking into 
			some of the other web sites that list our club, such as the NWSCC 
			web site, or SkiSite.com.  
			  
			By the 
			way, did you notice there are two Yahoos? The newer Yahoo Y!Q 
			is meant to be used for searching longer pieces of text, such as 
			quotations from articles or books. 
			  
			Kansas 
			City Ski Club 
			If you 
			think Google has unfairly singled out our club, try searching for a
			Kansas ski club.   
			Yahoo 
			finds the Kansas City ski club, 
			www.kcskiclub.org at the 
			top of the list, in position 1.  
			Google 
			puts this club in position 37, somewhere on page 4 of the results! 
			  
			
			UPDATE July 2010:  Google 
			has greatly improved since 2006.  It now displays our club (and 
			all the other clubs mentioned above) usually within the top 3 search 
			results. 
			  
			  
			
			How to switch to a 
			
			different Search Engine 
			  
			How to 
			change your search engine from Google to something else?  Well, as 
			usual, there's always more than one way to accomplish something on a 
			computer. I hardly ever use the browser’s own built-in search 
			engine. For some reason, I found the other two methods a bit more to 
			my liking.  But, I'll address all 3 ways: 
			  
			  
			
			METHOD 1:  USE THE SEARCH ENGINE'S WEB SITE 
			
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			Use 
			this method whenever you want to try out a different search engine 
			for the first time. 
			  
			
			Whenever you need to search for something, simply go to the 
			appropriate search engine's web site. You might want to save their 
			addresses in your list of "Favorites" (or "Bookmark" them).  Once 
			you get to the web site, simply type in your search words.  
			  
			Try any 
			of the top 5 or 6 search engine web sites listed above. The first 6 
			on the list gave equally good results.  Only AOL and Google placed 
			our club much further down on their lists.  
			
			  
			
			METHOD 2:  USE A SEARCH ENGINE'S TOOLBAR 
			
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			Use 
			this method all the time, since it's always on top the screen. 
			  
			Several 
			search engines offer a free "Toolbar" that you can download from 
			their web site.  You can find a Toolbar at: Google, Yahoo (under 
			Search Services), AltaVista,  A9, and others.  You can even have 
			multiple toolbars installed at the same time.  The toolbar simply 
			inserts itself as an additional line across the top of your browser 
			window.  That way it is always visible, no matter what page you 
			might be currently browsing.  
			  
			
			Whenever you need to search for something, simply type in the search 
			words in the space provided for that on the toolbar.  This is 
			probably the quickest and most convenient way.  
			
			   
			
			METHOD 3:  
			
			CHANGE THE DEFAULT SEARCH ENGINE WITHIN YOUR BROWSER 
			
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			Most 
			browsers should allow you to change to whatever Search Engine you 
			want.  There's usually a place to do that somewhere within your 
			browser's Tools, or Options, or Preferences.  The actual method of 
			making the change is a bit different in each browser, but the 
			principle is the same. 
			  
			1. In
			Internet Explorer, first click on the "Search" 
			button, and then click on the "Customize" button in the upper part 
			of the Search window.  In the new window, select "Use one search 
			service".  Then click OK.   
			This 
			process used to work well in the past, but it looks like Microsoft 
			messed something up lately.  One of my computers allows me only to 
			switch to Yahoo, while another computer only allows me to switch to 
			MSN.  Both computers run the same version of Windows XP.  So, I am 
			not sure what is going on here.  But, it;s one more reason to use 
			either Mthod 1 or 2 above, instead of trying to change the default 
			in my browser. 
			  
			2. In
			Mozilla Firefox, it couldn't be easier!!!  Click on 
			the little text-box in the upper right corner (where you are 
			currently probably displaying a letter "G" for "Google" 
			or "Y" for "Yahoo"). This will 
			give you a short list of other Search Engines you can select.  Yahoo 
			is one of them.    
			Or, you 
			can click on "Add Engines" (at the bottom of the list), and then 
			select from a longer list.  If you don't seen the Search Engine you 
			are looking for, go down to "Additional Resources" and click on 
			"Browse through more search engines".   
			After 
			you added your favorite search engine to the list in the upper right 
			corner of the screen, then select it, so that it's initial letter 
			appears in that box.  From now on, all searches will be done through 
			that engine.   |